Dan:

Thanks for the welcome. I have already helped myself to a tour of your
Letterboxing USA web page, and I DID see that one in Tenn. I haven';t been
that far in that direction yet, since we just moved here in July. My travels
for work stay pretty much within 2 hours of center-state. However, my Harley
travels (when the weather changes), take me to other neat-o places. My mom
live in Myrtle Beach, SC. which seems like an EXCELLENT place for a letterbox,
to me. And NC is a big and beautiful state, with many rustic and relatively
undeveloped places to hide things. I would like to get to the point that we
could do a little "Harley ride" every month to plant a box. We always need a
good excuse to go somewhere, and there are mountains, beaches, ANYTHING you
want here. I'm thinkin' that state parks, national forests, etc are prolly
good targets, right?????

I'd like to see your containers and weatherproof book, if you don;t mind. THe
stamps are NO PROBLEM, LOL.. In fact, THAT'S what got me interested. I am an
avid rubber stamperk and already have about 5000 stamps, so I can handle that
part, for sure. I plan to carve some and use some others that I have already.
The containers: I had thought of the TUpperware kind, and my son has some
old ammo cans that we bought years ago..... wonder how THOSE would work????
In addition to the "stamp thing", I also am a fledgling bookbinder, and was
thinking of possibly making a tyvek book for stamping. Wonder how that might
work,..... ya know, that stuff is almost impossible to destroy. The US Postal
service gets a chance every day, and they STILL haven;t succeeded.

I'm all ears, and ready to "plant" something. Waitin' for the weather to
change, and a little more info about choosing a place. And when this
"planting" is done, how does one go about getting the clues to the web page?
(I can already tell that the measuring, and the writing of the clues, etc,
will take WAAAAAY longer than the actual planting, OR the site choosing). Has
anybody ever planted a box that no one was able to FIND by following the
clues?????? LOL

I am:
Lynn Bensy
4800 Sweetbriar Rd.
Greesnboro, NC 27455

Thanks for any info.

Lynn (hoggie)

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Stamperhog@aol.com wrote:
> I'd like to see your containers and weatherproof book, if you don;t
> mind.

I will send you some stuff. Thanks for the addy.
Do you want to be on our welcome wagon list? It shows
up at the end of this note. I forgot to include in
my other note. Also would you or Tammy be interested
in being NC delegates? This just means you would be
on a separate email list that would be activated
when someone clicks on NC on the left-hand U.S. map.
In other words local people would be able to make
contact and stay in touch with you more easily.

> I'm all ears, and ready to "plant" something. Waitin' for the weather to
> change, and a little more info about choosing a place. And when this
> "planting" is done, how does one go about getting the clues to the web page?
> (I can already tell that the measuring, and the writing of the clues, etc,
> will take WAAAAAY longer than the actual planting, OR the site choosing). Has
> anybody ever planted a box that no one was able to FIND by following the
> clues?????? LOL

Well, I put my first one under a rock under some trees. See the clues
at
http://www.pclink.com/elf/mnmap.htm
or click on Minnesota and then Split Rock.

You can be as sophisticated or as basic as you want. I do believe it is
a bit more involved to use compass bearings and perhaps a little harder
to solve when they are used.

I don't know if a box has been planted that has stumped everybody. I do
know that I was stumped by Rock Creek the first time, see
http://www.pclink.com/elf/rockcrk.htm
I was standing right at the letterbox hiding spot but I did not look
down and under something in order to see it.
I was also completely stumped by Multnomah Falls, see
http://www.pclink.com/elf/crgfalls.htm
mostly because I did not have my compass with me.

Hope this information helps you.

Dan'l

Ps. Hey, how about a Harley in Mitch's masthead design?

Pps. My dad was trained under Harley And Davidson in Milwaukee
in the 40's. He has a certificate signed by them. He was in
one of the first classes to go through their training facility.
They actually taught the classes then! My dad and my brother
Jim did not just work on Harleys, they also raced them - hill
climbs, flat-track and drag-racing. Jim won the Nationals
at Gary, Indiana in 1965 on a 63 Harley Sportster.


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Greg and Ginny Bradley, Kansas City, Missouri: Hiking, Fishing, Camping
& Canoeing, Real estate, Major airline
mailto:bradman@blitz-it.net

Nisa Simila, Age 30, New Hampshire: Speech-Language Pathologist,
Neophyte artist & Finder of things
mailto:teapot@teapot.mv.com

Michelle Spalding, Age 37, Colorado: Artist & Web publisher
Mailto:hoofbeads@aol.com
http://www.gigagraphica.com/michelle/

Dennis Williams, Age 33, Oklahoma: History & Geography
mailto:dwilliam@snu.edu

Marty Chamberlain, Age 35, Pennsylvania: Outdoors & Exploring The Cave
of The
Unknown
mailto:martyc@cyberdude.com

Tom Cooch, Age 54, Vermont: Teaching & Hiking
mailto:tcooch@sover.net

Tammy Abernethy, Age 38, North Carolina: Agri-research & Dog stamps
mailto:tammy@unity.ncsu.edu

Thom Cheney, Age 37, Oregon: Stamp carving & Clues
mailto:tcgrafx@imagina.com

Daniel Servatius, Age 40, Minnesota: Maps/GPS & Co-web author
mailto:elf@pclink.com

Mitch (Der Mad Stamper) Klink, Age 35, Oregon: Co-web author (Kids
Corner)
mailto:letterboxr@aol.com

Adrian (Have Feet Will Travel) Williams, Age 43, Dartmoor England:
Manager &
Letterboxer
mailto:adrian@letterboxing.freeserve.co.uk

Becky Hilts, Age 42, Tennessee: Transplanted Yankee, Finder of first USA
letterbox
mailto:Dmnynkii@aol.com

Julie Jefferies, Age 45, TEXAS: Writer, Artist, Mail artist
mailto:exposto1@airmail.net

Erik Davis, Age 52, Vermont: Architect, Wood turner, Photographer, Book
Collector, Mensan, Husband of World Famous Stamp-carver, Susan Davis
mailto:davisarc@wcvt.com

Todd Brown, Age 35, New York: Hiking, Backpacking, Cub scout leader
mailto:Todd_B@juno.com

Rachel, Age 17, Illinois: Letterboxing & Many-a-hobby
mailto:Harpo73@aol.com

Randy "the mapsurfer", Pennsylvania
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Steven Stary, Age 25, Wisconsin: Teaching, Photography & Saber fencing
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Dear Stamperhog,
Allow me to join in welcoming you to our group. I had been talking to one of
my biker buddies recently about how much fun it would be to cruise around the
country on a Hog, planting letterboxes by day and carving stamps for them at
night. I may yet have to take such action if we're going to realize our
letterboxing goal of "All 50 (states) by Y2K"!!!!

Did you say 5000 stamps??!!!! Look out, America, Der Mad Stamper is IN
LOVE!!! What's the shortest route from Oregon to North Carolina?

Tupperware and Rubbermaid sandwich boxes (especially the ones that are about
4"x 6") make excellent letterboxes. They used to use ammo boxes a lot in
Dartmoor, but have been discouraging this lately, for fear that someone might
mistake a REAL misplaced ammo box for a letterbox. Personally, I prefer that
letterboxes be in a container that is at least partially transparent, so it is
obvious what's inside. It might be bad publicity if a bomb squad gets called
out to destroy what turns out to be one of our letterboxes!!!

Many regards,
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>my other note. Also would you or Tammy be interested
>in being NC delegates? This just means you would be
>
>

Hi Daniel, At this time I'd rather not be an NC delegate.
Have too much going on now and not enough (i.e. zero) experience
in letterboxing. Sometime in the future I'd like to consider
it - thanks!

Tammy Abernethy * Dept Plant Pathology * N C S U * tammy@unity.ncsu.edu
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In a message dated 3/17/99 4:43:25 AM, you wrote:

< up at the end of this note. I forgot to include in
my other note. Also would you or Tammy be interested
in being NC delegates? This just means you would be
on a separate email list that would be activated
when someone clicks on NC on the left-hand U.S. map.
In other words local people would be able to make
contact and stay in touch with you more easily.
>>

Yeah to both these things. I don;t know enough to be of much info to anyone
contacting me, but I'm gonna learn , and you can see that I have big plans
to plant some stuff in my area. Hopefully Tammy and I can get some stuff
happening here........ after all, I can';t go find my OWN boxes, can I??? LOL
So put me on BOTH lists, and I'll do what I can.

Looking forward to getting your water-proof book to see what we need, and
maybe I can find some plain tyvek (as opposed to "liberating" some of those
Priority envelopes from the USPS as I have been doing) to make some of my own.
It stamps GREAT!!!!

I have already discussed this project with my SO (significant other) and he is
agreeable to the Harley adventures to plant the boxes. Sort of gives a PURPOSE
to each trip (yeah- like you need a REASON to ride a Harley on a beautiful
day, LOL). Will be getting my thought in order, and working on ideas for where
to plant the first NC box. Tammy...... you gonna beat me to that honor??????
LOL

Hoggie

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In a message dated 3/17/99 7:40:37 AM, you wrote:

< Allow me to join in welcoming you to our group. I had been talking to one of
my biker buddies recently about how much fun it would be to cruise around the
country on a Hog, planting letterboxes by day and carving stamps for them at
night. I may yet have to take such action if we're going to realize our
letterboxing goal of "All 50 (states) by Y2K"!!!!

Did you say 5000 stamps??!!!! Look out, America, Der Mad Stamper is IN
LOVE!!! What's the shortest route from Oregon to North Carolina?

Tupperware and Rubbermaid sandwich boxes (especially the ones that are about
4"x 6") make excellent letterboxes. They used to use ammo boxes a lot in
Dartmoor, but have been discouraging this lately, for fear that someone might
mistake a REAL misplaced ammo box for a letterbox. Personally, I prefer that
letterboxes be in a container that is at least partially transparent, so it is
obvious what's inside. It might be bad publicity if a bomb squad gets called
out to destroy what turns out to be one of our letterboxes!!!

Many regards,>>

How come every message I answer to the " individual" goes to the whole
GROUP???? I mean, I don;t have any secrets, but I figure you guys are getting
sick of seeing these messages from me by now.

So anyhow, to Mitch:

Yeah, baby!!!!!! You and I think ALIKE about the fun to be had planting
letter boxes on Harley rides. In fact, (and this is just a thought here), you
MIGHT consider contacting HOG clubs in all 50 states, to see if they might be
willing to help with your project of planting boxes in every state by Y2K. I
could picture a ride scheduled for just this purpose (you know, Harley folks
will ride for ANY excuse, and a get-together panned afterwards. And Harley
folks might be interested in HUNTING the boxes, too. THey already have some
Harley-sponsored program where you ride and take pix at various sites (like
the "welcome to.........." sign at the outside of almost every town) to prove
that you were there. This is similar, in the "stamping your book" aspect. So,
while I am sure Harley ITSELF would not be interested in sponsoring it,
various HOG groups might like to participate by planting and/or hunting boxes.

As for the rubber stamps..... yep, I;ve got a SLEW of them. All subjects, that
I create "art" with. Flowers, motorcycles (of course), animals, etc. Not hand
carved, YET, but I do have plans. What is YOUR interest in rubber stamps?????
Do tell.

Good point about the ammo box. I guess I WOULD be reluctant to open an ammo
box, if I found one, for fear of what I'd find it it. Thanks for the thump on
the head.

Hoggie

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> Will be getting my thought in order, and working on ideas for where
>to plant the first NC box. Tammy...... you gonna beat me to that honor??????
>LOL
>
>Hoggie
>

I thought there was already a box in NC in the mountains... but
maybe someone else knows for sure. I am being kind of slack
right now and don't think I can match your enthusiasm for getting
out a box right away!

I have a friend in Greensboro, we do a lot of dog training
together (see that is the activity that takes up my time) and now
I already have a couple ideas of places to hide one or two in
that area! Now that there is someone to go out and find them
that will be the next project I work on!

Tammy Abernethy * Dept Plant Pathology * N C S U * tammy@unity.ncsu.edu
Lady Belle Starr III CD CGC -- Labrador Retriever
Visit the Greater Raleigh Dog Training Club at:
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In a message dated 3/17/99 3:43:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Stamperhog@aol.com writes:

> How come every message I answer to the " individual" goes to the whole
> GROUP???? I mean, I don;t have any secrets, but I figure you guys are
> getting
> sick of seeing these messages from me by now.

If you look at the header on the messages you should see that it lists the
person who wrote the message where it says FROM. Below that, in the REPLY TO
space it lists letterbox-usa@egroups.com. By default, all replies are sent to
the group. If you want to send a private message, you'll have to copy the
address in the FROM space and drop it into the SEND TO box of your reply.
Hope this helps.

Der Mad Stamper

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Stamperhog@aol.com writes:

> Yeah, baby!!!!!! You and I think ALIKE about the fun to be had planting
> letter boxes on Harley rides.

My Dearest Hoggie,
You have some great ideas regarding getting bikers involved in the hobby.
Definitely worth persuing. Right now, I'm wishing I had a bike. I can hang
on tight, though!! (hint, hint)

you wrote:
> As for the rubber stamps..... yep, I;ve got a SLEW of them...
> ...What is YOUR interest in rubber stamps?????
> Do tell.

Do to a rare birth defect, I was born with stamp pad ink in my veins, instead
of blood. Fortunately it was red, so no one notices. Actually, I have been
MAD about stamping for about fourteen years now. It all started when I
stumbled upon a rare find at a used book sale: "The Rubber Stamp Album" by
Joni K. Miller and Lowry Thompson.

Soon I was hooked... carving my own stamps, buying them from mail-order
catalogs, and finding them at flea markets. I must say, I was well ahead of
my time... back then I could hardly find them in retail stores. Now it seems
every craft, book, card, and toy store carries a nice line of stamps.

I use them any way I can. I love Mail Art. My profusely decorated letters
have undoubtedly caused many a disgruntled postal employee to "lose it"!! Who
knows how many ghosts haunt me as a result. I am a public menace in more ways
than one... my stamps have been know to show up in the oddest public places,
from waiting room magazines to bulletin boards to (heaven forbid) restroom
walls. On occasion I have even been known to protest certain products by
stamping activist messages on the boxes as they sat on the shelf in a store.
My name has been Der Mad Stamper for nearly a decade and a half, and I have
definetely lived up to it!!!

I make maps with stamps, as well as cards, calendars, paperless wallpaper
designs, wrapping paper, and works of art (or MADsterpieces, as I prefer to
call them).

Another fun activity that I enjoy is writing letters to people in the form of
a REBUS. A rebus is a puzzle where many of the words in a message are
replaced with pictures. Sometimes I use stamps with math symbols to create an
elaborate formula to define the words, for example, the word STAMPER might be
replaced with a formula that has a stamp of a STAR minus AR plus a stamped pic
of a LAMP minus L plus a stamp of a lady with the word "mom" (to represent the
word MOTHER) minus a picture of a MOTH. Get it?

To be quite honest, I had been so busy in very recent years that I seldom made
time for stamping, except on special occasions, like birthdays, valentines,
etc. Then, I discovered the Smithsonian article about letterboxing in
(ironically enough) a waiting room. I could almost hear the fuses blowing in
my head as I read the article! I rushed home, logged on to the Net, typed the
word LETTERBOXING into a search engine, and before long found myself
conversing by email with Erik Davis in VT and Dan Servatius in MN. A
letterboxing fanatic was born!!!

Now that you know more about me than my MOTH plus ER, perhaps you will
consider marrying me. I will clean all 5000 of your stamps regularly and
write love notes to you every day (if you can figure out what they say).
There's only one catch. The prenups must state that if we should break up,
you get the cars, the bikes, the house and all the money... but I get all the
rubber stamps!!!

Madly yours,
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In a message dated 3/18/99 2:23:32 PM, you wrote:

My Dearest Hoggie,
You have some great ideas regarding getting bikers involved in the hobby.
Definitely worth persuing. Right now, I'm wishing I had a bike. I can hang
on tight, though!! (hint, hint)
****** Yeah, but I can;t DRIVE the Harley- I'm just the RIDER!!!!! LOL It
MIGHT get sorta crowded on the bike with 3 of us, but I wouldn't mind bein'
the "meat" in a friendly biker sandwich, LOL.

you wrote:
Actually, I have been
MAD about stamping for about fourteen years now. carving my own stamps,
buying them from mail-order
catalogs, and finding them at flea markets. I must say, I was well ahead of
my time... back then I could hardly find them in retail stores. Now it seems
every craft, book, card, and toy store carries a nice line of stamps.
***** well, lots of them carry STAMPS, but not too many have GOOD ones. I Do
buy at stores, but mostly I order from catalogs. I have not yet started
carving, but I DO plan to get started. Been thinking of some ideas for a
while, but just haven';t DONE anything yet. (story of my life!) I like travel
images, and postoids. Stuff like that.

I use them any way I can. I love Mail Art. My profusely decorated letters
have undoubtedly caused many a disgruntled postal employee to "lose it"!! Who
knows how many ghosts haunt me as a result. I am a public menace in more ways
than one... my stamps have been know to show up in the oddest public places,
from waiting room magazines to bulletin boards to (heaven forbid) restroom
walls. On occasion I have even been known to protest certain products by
stamping activist messages on the boxes as they sat on the shelf in a store.
My name has been Der Mad Stamper for nearly a decade and a half, and I have
definetely lived up to it!!!
****** I love mail art, too. I belong to a loosely knit group of mail
artists, and we send "stuff" around the circuits. SOmetimes political,
sometimes just fun. SOmetimes it's art, sometimes it aren't. Have been know
to send silly stuff, like a HUGE pair of women's underwear (not mine, thank
you) with a message on them, a stuffed globe which has been smooshed (with the
stamped message "This world is in terrible shape"). That project was an "add-
on amd forward" thing, and I have no idea where it went. One member created a
paper mache mummy, an add-on project also. After about 6 months, when it came
to me, my friend Octopussy8 and I "added on" the sarcophygus, which we
decorated with faux jewels and gold trip, which we stamped profusely with
Egyptian images. It was AWESOME, as was Ms. Mummy, by that time. Pretty kewl.
I have a pix of the mummy, if you would like to see. No pix of the sarcophygus
tho, sorry. (Maybe the "Puss" has one- will have to ask her).

I make maps with stamps, as well as cards, calendars, paperless wallpaper
designs, wrapping paper, and works of art (or MADsterpieces, as I prefer to
call them).
***** Let's trade snail addresses. I wanna SEE some of this stuff!!!! And
I'll send you some of mine, when I get back to it. Right now, I am over my
head in an on-going art journal swap round robin, and ALSO a nasty-naughty
card swap, to be followed by my stamped bio-pages and then a goddess design in
rubber (you get the drift- I have a lot on the stamping burner). I MAY have
some of my stupid computer-art stuff left in the drawer, tho, and could send
you some of that. It's not anything amazing, but sort of neat. I have made
some faux postage stamps on the computer, too, and did a Bill and Monica
commemorative. I'lll see what I have to send in that lot.

Another fun activity that I enjoy is writing letters to people in the form of
a REBUS. A rebus is a puzzle where many of the words in a message are
replaced with pictures. Sometimes I use stamps with math symbols to create an
elaborate formula to define the words, for example, the word STAMPER might be
replaced with a formula that has a stamp of a STAR minus AR plus a stamped pic
of a LAMP minus L plus a stamp of a lady with the word "mom" (to represent the
word MOTHER) minus a picture of a MOTH. Get it?
****** funny you should mention this....... remember the aforementioned "bio-
pages"? Well, a bunch of stampers from AOL are doing autobiographies
(stamped) which will be mailed to a central brave person who will combine all
those bios into a nice hand-bound book. My page, Stampie, are done in
REBUS!!!! KEWL!!!! I have used some scanned book-origin clip art, some
stamped and scanned (and reduced) art, some computer clip art, and a few other
things. It has been quite a challege to get it all together as I have no idea
how to combine text and picture (I THINK I don;t have the right software, and
I am a computer idiot, so don't EVEN try to tell me, thank you).

To be quite honest, I had been so busy in very recent years that I seldom made
time for stamping, except on special occasions, like birthdays, valentines,
etc. Then, I discovered the Smithsonian article about letterboxing in
(ironically enough) a waiting room. I could almost hear the fuses blowing in
my head as I read the article!
****** Man, I can see this NOW!!!!! I love that image. I've had that happen
to me, on occasion.


Now that you know more about me than my MOTH plus ER, perhaps you will
consider marrying me. I will clean all 5000 of your stamps regularly and
write love notes to you every day (if you can figure out what they say).
There's only one catch. The prenups must state that if we should break up,
you get the cars, the bikes, the house and all the money... but I get all the
rubber stamps!!!
**** OHMYGAWD!!!!! I have NEVER heard a sweeter offer. What a gem you are,
Stampie. Where were you 20 years ago...... (oh, never mind, you were probably
a baby, LOL.)

My stamps are prolly worth MORE than all the above, tho, LOL. They are like
drugs... once you start, you just can't STOP!!!! But I'll share, for sure.
What sort of images do you like??????? I'll stamp you some images on sticker
paper and mail 'em to you.

Looking forward to some mail art, both coming and going.

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Mitch;
Forgive my reading of your most lovelorn comments to Hoggie, but, thanks
for allowing me (us all) to see yet another Mad Side of the Mad Stamper!

Guerilla Art it sounds like to me - alive and well.

Bravo Mitch!

EriK
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Stamperhog writes:

> ****** I love mail art, too. I belong to a loosely knit group...
> Let's trade snail addresses. I wanna SEE some of this stuff!!!! And
> I'll send you some of mine, when I get back to it. Right now, I am over my
> head...

You're on. I don't have anything lying around at the moment to send (I give
things away as fast as I make them), but I'll see if I can come up with
something. Give me some time, though. I'm also over my head in other projects
at the moment.

> ****** funny you should mention [rebuses]....... remember the
aforementioned "bio-
> pages"? Well, a bunch of stampers from AOL are doing autobiographies
> (stamped) which will be mailed to a central brave person who will combine
all
> those bios into a nice hand-bound book. My page, Stampie, are done in
REBUS!!!

How totally awesome!!! I've been thinking for quite a while about doing a set
of letterbox clues in the form of a rebus, but haven't got around to it yet.
Maybe this spring...

Ride On!!
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In a message dated 3/19/99 3:27:57 AM, Stamperhog@aol.com writes:

>Yeah, but I can;t DRIVE the Harley- I'm just the RIDER!!!!! LOL It
>MIGHT get sorta crowded on the bike with 3 of us, but I wouldn't mind bein'
>the "meat" in a friendly biker sandwich, LOL.

I realize this is completely off topic, and for
that I apologize, but thanks for the laugh! It's
good medicine for me, but I nearly overdosed
and choked on it.

Michelle Spalding
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Hey there!

I got the 2 containers today...... I wondered "What the hell is this?" when I
pulled them outta the mailbox, but since I am into mail art, I DO get some
weird stuff, so I wasn;t TOO shocked. I guess the BIG shock was that they were
WRAPPED, as opposed to mailed naked with an addess.

I am amazed at the book...... sure LOOKS like paper........ tears like
paper.....wonder how it is so weather-proof. Have you tested this stuff?????
Does it resist mold, etc???? How does it seem different from others, to
you????

I am planning to plant a box in a few weeks, as soon as I get my stamps carved
and scout out an ideal place for hiding. THink I will use one of your
containers. Will let you know.... THanks for the education about this stuff.

Lynn the Hoggie

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